Pari Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 FLYSRUFER Speed3 Deluxe 12M Woops I've done it again...bought myself yet another kite. What a kite! I've been wanting to get a Flysurfer Speed3 ever since I had a borrowed one for a couple of seasons of Jason. I went as far as buying Pansh A15 which is a great kite for the money and I've had a heap of fun with it, but it is no replacement for German design and engineering. I picked the Flysurfer Speed3 Deluxe with the Lotus material, up from Byron Bay yesterday having won an eBay bid. I managed to have both a land board and kitesurf session in the evening to put it through it's paces. OMG... what an insane kite. The wind was about 13 maybe 14 knots. Not a lot for a kitesurfing session on a Tube kite but with the FS I was doing massive airs like I've never done before. You just up vertical with enough float up there to have a little look around and take in the view, casually look at the kite and when it's time to come back down, redirect and float down to a soft landing. Very impressive. The timing takes a bit of getting use to especially on turns, the kite flies so far forward in the window that you have to let the kite pull you round out of the turn rather than carving it up in a quick switch the way I like to with a LEI. Speaking of forward in the wind window, in that kind of marginal wind I would have been working my butt off to keep up on the 136cm twin tip I was riding, never mind staying up wind. With the FS I wasn't even thinking about it and in fact I was casual letting myself drift a little down wind playing with jumps and finding waves to ride of the lip. I would easily gain the lost ground without even trying. I like to ride waves coming in when I can, but it was hard with this kite as it's just so damn fast! I couldn't wash of the speed once I was on the wave and would just end up out racing it.....there probably is a knack to it. The kite is very forgiving as I've heard said before, I felt very safe out there. I've never really thought that I would use a ram air kite on the water and intended this kite to use for my land boarding, mainly because tube kites are so easy to get out of trouble with when you dump them in the water. But the FS stays UP there... like it just sits up there above you head. So the couple of times I came of the board and reoriented myself the kite was ready for me to get going again unlike my Naish Pivot (another awesome kite) which if you take your eyes of for more than a few seconds can end up taking a accelerated nose dive. All in all I loved riding it on the water, so much that i went out again today again in marginal winds. I know it was marginal because whilst I was the only kitesurfer out there carving it up, speeding along and doing big airs, I saw a couple of LEI's go up. They tried and failed to even get going, one dumping his BWS in the water having a kitemare. I felt a little smug I must admit. So the land board sessions... Lets just say woooohoooo. I scared myself a few times with speed, and how far and high my jumps were, but again that famous Flysurfer float just gives you the time to correct. Any other kite i wouldn't have felt safe doing jumps like that but the Speed3 gives me the confidence to push it a little further. I've had the sickest weekend flying my new Flysurfer Speed3 Deluxe and I've absolutely knackered myself out from all the fun. Better start saving for the Speed5! .Joel, nigel, jhn.holgate and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy666 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Yep, the old speed 3 is still a brilliant kite. That's why it took flysurfer over 5yrs to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, andy666 said: Yep, the old speed 3 is still a brilliant kite. That's why it took flysurfer over 5yrs to replace it. Yep, and the deluxe defo feels better again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 My 15m speed 3 deluxe did me well for some years. Now I'm on the chrono which is next level again. Riding waves on a high aspect foil is a very difficult thing to do. You wont be able to do it in the same manner as an lei. If too powered you are screwed! it will pull you off the face. Try this, on the way in depower at the trim strap, wash speed right down before the wave pushes you then bar out. The reason you're being pulled off the face is because of the increased apparent wind speed and power generated by the additional push of the wave. On a positive note. on ultra light wind days you can use the wave push to building additional apparent wind and go upwind on a day that you otherwise couldn't. For going down the line looping is the way and the light. Also a back stalled drift works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socommk233 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Is it me or am i lieing to myself every time a say "thats the last bit i need". Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 The exact number of toys you need is N+1 Chook and socommk233 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 03/01/2017 at 6:21 AM, plummet said: My 15m speed 3 deluxe did me well for some years. Now I'm on the chrono which is next level again. Riding waves on a high aspect foil is a very difficult thing to do. You wont be able to do it in the same manner as an lei. If too powered you are screwed! it will pull you off the face. Try this, on the way in depower at the trim strap, wash speed right down before the wave pushes you then bar out. The reason you're being pulled off the face is because of the increased apparent wind speed and power generated by the additional push of the wave. On a positive note. on ultra light wind days you can use the wave push to building additional apparent wind and go upwind on a day that you otherwise couldn't. For going down the line looping is the way and the light. Also a back stalled drift works. I've got a few questions for you Plummet. So why the Chrono and not the Sonic? what are you riding on lite wind days in way of a board, I tried using a surf board this season. Only been on it a handful of times, but man it's hard, like being a beginner again and not sure if I can be patient enough to stick with it. do you loop switching directions as I've seen on YouTube? I've found that turning round is where the loss of speed and power is hard to get going again. I'd be nervous to try a loop simply coz I haven't tried a water launch yet and am worried about dumping the kite face down, down at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 I don't like surfboards. My light wind board used to be a door. Now it's the hydrofoil. Yep you can downloop at direction changes. Just commit to the loop. Face downwind a bit and you will be sweet as. If you don't commit to the loop and bail out half way around, that's when you will end up with and upside down kite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, plummet said: I don't like surfboards. My light wind board used to be a door. Now it's the hydrofoil. Yep you can downloop at direction changes. Just commit to the loop. Face downwind a bit and you will be sweet as. If you don't commit to the loop and bail out half way around, that's when you will end up with and upside down kite. OK I'm gonna give it a try. I do them on land sometimes if the wind is lite so it can't be that different. I haven't really thought about foils but a lot of Kitesurfers are getting into them so maybe some time I should look into them. This whole lite wind Kitesurfing is something I'd wrote off until this weeks couple of sessions with the FS Speed. Now it's peeked my interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikuza Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Why limit foils to light wind? If the conditions are right, they're mental good fun in strong wind. Pari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Kites Australia Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 Here in Townsville, seeing the crew on their sonics, chronos and speed 5s, they are jumping some serious heights above 11m and more, in 15knots and in 12m kites. The only LEI that might come close is the Boost 2. When it cranks above 20knots, out come the 7 to 9m foils and boom they get even higher!! Foil kites are insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 6:10 PM, Pari said: I've got a few questions for you Plummet. So why the Chrono and not the Sonic? I scored a deal on a demo chrono. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 6 hours ago, plummet said: I scored a deal on a demo chrono. As a a reason as any...I was pricing up a full kite Sonic 2 yesterday....wow just over $4000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Look around and be patient. racers ditch last years kites In favour of this years usually at cheap prices. Last years kites are perfectly good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 2 hours ago, plummet said: Look around and be patient. racers ditch last years kites In favour of this years usually at cheap prices. Last years kites are perfectly good. yeah, early days though.. More out of curiosity. I'll get a couple of seasons out of the Speed 3 and by then I may be ready to go for a Sonic over the Speed 5. Never thought I'd consider the Sonic but when I see some of the vids of them in action they do look damned impressive. As I'm not one for ticks but do like to do nice high floaty jumps and be able to go nicely up wind on the the land board a Sonic might be the way to go in the future. How do you find the Chrono on the mountain board? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plummet Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 I love it on the land board. Crazy jumps with complete control Pari 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 05/01/2017 at 11:32 PM, Kamikuza said: Why limit foils to light wind? If the conditions are right, they're mental good fun in strong wind. Just had the Speed out for a very quick sesh after work. BTW getting the foil out for spin was a good idea, by the time I get home from Robina it's gettin late, so unwinding the lines for quickey rather than infalting, laying out the bar and lines etc, was worth it. But I digress! Speed out, quick sesh, higher winds, what a beast... I've only had it out in marginal winds on the water till tonight but once it's lit up the thing is fast and responsive. I thought I'd try one of those looping turns, not that I needed to, and almost lost it as I got sling shot around to the opposite direction.LOL, I was laughing out loud to myself like a crazy person. And doing mental jumps, straight over the bigger ways and nicely placing my landing just where I wanted. I was giggling to myself a lot. Only out for about 20 mins or so but a nice way to decompress after a shitty day at work. jhn.holgate and andy666 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I want to do something about my bar not spinning, put a bearing in or something. Anyone got info on this? I believe I read something by Andy a long time ago on a swivel mod?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy666 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Hi Pari. Here's the link to the infinity bar mods I did. I can't remember the size of the bearing though, but I'm pretty sure it was a "standard" size. honestly though, the best thing I did was get rid of the original chicken loop and fit the new infinity 2 chicken loop. It's a lot more refined and operates a lot smoother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pari Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Thanks dude, I'll take a look. FS have their Infinity 2 loops at half price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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