Nas Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I have been buggying for ten years ,but recently I began to notice that I have reached a level that I am not able to go beyond. I do not know all my ground tricks ,and at one time I did the backward , the tack turn, the two wheels but I did not go beyond this. I can buggy jump regularly and go into and out of gullies and dry ponds but that's about it . So most of my time I spend into power slides ,accelerating ,turning fast and back again and again till I finish a solid two hours max.Then I pack up and go home. I love the drive ,the open space ,the free ride but I feel something is missing when I am no longer progressing . Any help to make buggying more intersting . BTW there are only two of us who are serious about buggying in the whole country, and I taught him everything I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eLuSiVeMiTe Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 (edited) I have been buggying for ten years ,but recently I began to notice that I have reached a level that I am not able to go beyond. I do not know all my ground tricks ,and at one time I did the backward , the tack turn, the two wheels but I did not go beyond this. I can buggy jump regularly and go into and out of gullies and dry ponds but that's about it . So most of my time I spend into power slides ,accelerating ,turning fast and back again and again till I finish a solid two hours max.Then I pack up and go home. I love the drive ,the open space ,the free ride but I feel something is missing when I am no longer progressing . Any help to make buggying more intersting . BTW there are only two of us who are serious about buggying in the whole country, and I taught him everything I know. You've answered your own question mate. It's not just about the buggying. It's the people you buggy with. If I go up solo il have a quick hour blasting around and head home. When we're up as a group it tends to be an all day affair with just as much time having a laugh as buggying. Maybe lay out some markers via your gps. As I recall your dessert buggying? Or is it dune. either way make it a proper trip rather than scooting around a small area Edited May 9, 2012 by eLuSiVeMiTe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeyethewelder Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Put out some flags, set up a small course and chase each other around it, set up time trials...ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8015 Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I think you have done well to last 10 years like that, if it wasn't for the challenge I get out of racing I doubt I would still be buggying (nearly 9 years for me). I guess that's one of the reasons I found it so easy to drop kitesurfing when I found I had less spare time, although I enjoy it a lot, I was really just going out and doing the same old thing backwards and forwards all the time. I am trying to get back to it though. I think you need to set goals - obviously with just 2 of you a race series is not realistic so maybe you need to set some journey goals or something - even if you just set waypoints on a GPS as elusivemite suggests, you can set them to be challenging to get to. I talked years ago about setting a bunch of waypoints up for the bank at Hoylake that anyone could download and then use to time trial themselves and aim to get around them all the fastest (submit GPS track to prove it), obviously the bank is tidal so we can't leave actual markers out because they would be washed away, but maybe if you have inland areas you could use orienteering controls and set them in interesting places and mark them up on a map. Then you give yourselves a limited time to try and punch as many controls as possible AND return to the start/finish point, penalising late returns. If you could leave them out long term without risk of their being stolen/moved you could try with different time limits, different wind directions and stuff which would keep it interesting. Making different controls worth different points adds an element of planning to work out how to get the best score in the time limit (assuming it is short enough that visiting all controls is not possible). The other alternative would be the often suggested, but as far as I know never tried - buggy paintball! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand-Yeti Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 i think I know where you are coming from Nas but that's like most sports in life; we have a steep learning curve in the beginning and once you've reached the plateau of that curve, you have to look for ways to improve. I've been buggying a for around the same number of years as your good-self . I still find ways to improve on what I do. I find that every time I hit the dunes, I'm still faced with challenges & even now contune to improve my skills in them. The flat areas are less demanding and have almost reached a plateau on those but there few things you can do. Work at trying to increase your top speeds. This could include the challenge of improving your buggy & other kliting equipment. If you see what PTW does, he is constantly progressing and don't believe he will ever reach a point of where he wants to be simply becasue our sport is progressing. There's a good suggestion above about planning long routes. This is what I do and I even look for challenging new routes. This continues to helps me progress. I think the day I stop progressing, will be the day I stop buggying but have many more years of learning yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispy Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If your interest is jumping and tricks rather than speed runs and racing, but you're looking for some form of competition, it might be worth having a look at the dual line kite Virtual Freestyle competition rules and adapting them to freestyle buggying. http://www.virtualfreestyle.net/ Providing you can drum up enough interest from other buggiers around the world you could end up with an interesting challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispy Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 If your interest is jumping and tricks rather than speed runs and racing, but you're looking for some form of competition, it might be worth having a look at the dual line kite Virtual Freestyle competition rules and adapting them to freestyle buggying. http://www.virtualfreestyle.com/ Providing you can drum up enough interest from other buggiers around the world you could end up with an interesting challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Ive buggyed since about 2004. I have to be honest and say Ive only had one buggyer who's pushed me in all that time. Flat land buggying, I find boring now but I'm happy on the hills thro the Winter. Happy may not be the word, happier is more apt. I guess its the same old same old. So what do I do to make it interesting again ? I swap my FB kite for a depower, swap my dry clothes for a wet suit and put the buggy in the shed. Off to the coast for a season on the water. Kitesurfing and hill buggying are similar in my head. Humps and bumps and surfing the side of hills that are now waves. Not a lot of help I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benbarden Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 The other alternative would be the often suggested, but as far as I know never tried - buggy paintball! Jim Now that i want to try!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafe.Racer Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I feel i can comment, but ive buggied no where near as long as you. Last year id got to a level similar to you and felt the same as you - i was just going out freeriding, doing the same old stuff but not progressing. I wont mention the trick schools we have had in the uk because they dont apply, but they did teach me to try new stuff in order to progress. Set yourself targets. You can jump, but can you jump backwards? You can 2 wheel, but can you wrongside? Can you jump from 2 wheels and land two wheels? There are loads of tricks out there to try, so get a list and try them. Look at youtube, try the progression DVD. If you cant 'get' a trick, ask on here. If your mate can do something that you cant, follow him and learn. And show him stuff he cant do. Above all, set targets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sand-Yeti Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Some years ago there was a thread on here about jousting in a buggy. You and your mate who you taught everything just need to pick up a couple of lances & you are in the business of progressing. I like Boaters idea of paint ball buggying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat Old Whimp Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Progression. I remember that. Seems a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted May 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Thanks guys , I like paintball ,jousting ,putting markers and running a race course. I am useless at 2 line trick kites so I will pass on virtual free style but thanks for the link.Very proficient kiters in almost no wind days. I did try kite surfing but have not made the transition yet because the beach is too far 350KM away ,and everytime the conditions are good I opt for windsurfing .I have been windsurfing since 1980 and would prefer it to kite surfing any day . But we have a session this afternoon and I will put out some markers to run a course. Also I did not mention but our normal playing area has been reduced by crop growers all around us . So what we have left is a scub of drying wild herbs ,cammomile ,wild garlic, lentils and few other shrubs not normally consumed by sheep. Our area is a grazing area so we also have to keep our distance from sheep, and camels and the occasional horses . We change locations throughout the season as one area is done with grazing ,then we move on to it . We could drive further to mud flats ,but its not practical unless you make a full day out of it .Our typical outing is 30min to get there ,90min of buggying and 30 min to return . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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