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I was going to fly this kite a few more times before posting a review but considering what happened today I thought I'd speak out Scenerio: HQ CF 3.2, newer flyer, solid 250 lbs (about 18 stone). 10-15 mph winds. Nice open field, not too gusty. Got this kite yesterday and upon examination it looked to be decent quality, I was very excited. The RTF package was there accept I was missing the instructional dvd. Looked over stitching, bridals ect and they seemed well made. The bag is alright, nothing acceptional but fair for the money invested; certainly functional ( although it doesn't fly well) Took it out for a test run today and it's a mixed bag. I'm thrilled to have a traction kite but I say this with some reservatoins. After some flying, exporing the edge handling, landing/launching and a lot of being pulled around I decided to test the killers a few times to make sure they worked. Glad I was just testing as one of my killers gave it up; snapped right at the attatchment loop on the wrist strap. Also glad no one was near the kite at that moment or the handle would have clocked them as it went shooting out of my hand and way past my kite. Dang! Well, at least I got about an hour in first before this happened so the day wasn't totally ruined. It kept begging me to pick it back up but not without killers, sorry. (big sigh) I had a few other kties to fly but a 6' thunderfoil compared to a 3.2 CF is lackluster to say the least. The handles are alright I guess, definately nothing approaching 'comfortable' imo. I'll probably end up wearing gloves to make the grip fatter. However, like the bag they are perfectly functional. BTW, has anyone been given brake lines on these CF's and found they where slightly different lengths? One seemed to be slightly longer than the other making balanced flying slightly harder to acheive. I'll check all the lines again to confirm whether any are off from it's partner later today and ammend this review with my findings. The kite is a machine and one that requires your full attention or you'll be sorry ( I suppose that could be said for most traction kites though). It's fast, so it does like to over-fly if you're not paying attention but with a little brake input it behaves. Through the power zone you will know that this kite is all business and, let me tell you, it was NOT impressed with my mere 250 lbs. I got a decent gust and jumped with ease (okay more 'shock' than 'ease'). Yes, the kite is very lifty as claimed and, my ankle is not thanking me at the momement but I'll live (I just had to try it). Mostly I just got pulled around when I dared to run it through the power zone. Yes, this kite is certianly going to take some practice and I'll probably end up with a smaller sail for days with winds above 20 mph. So, back to the killers, what gives,? Will HQ send me new killers since the stock ones failed the first day out in moderate winds? Also, after l measure the lines, if one turns out to be longer than another will they replace those as well? I know it's a less expensive kite comparatively but I'm not exactly thrilled that I had to cut my flying short cuase one of my killers went south. Although, with my ankle hurting I probably would have quit anyway. Conclusion (for now): Don't get me wrong, I had a blast flying this kite. At the same time I also learned a lot of respect and have a lingering sense of fear. This kite is not for the faint of heart, or for pure newbies as it does exactly what it was designed to do: pull like hell. Some one on here said something like 'when you're no longer afraid, you're about to get hurt' and I couldn't agree more.The Kite itself is a beast and if you are totally new to the world of kites have no common sense (yet) and/or lack the upper body strength, this kite is not for you. A beamer of some sort would be safer. Really, if you're unsure, buy something under 3 meters. I'll add more to this when I see how HQ decides to handle my missing/busted equipment. By : arms
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I haven't had the kite long, and am new to 4-line kiting, but I have had a chance to fly in varying wind strengths over the last few weeks. Here's a beginners point of view. Having caught the kiting bug off my sisters boyfriend very quickly, after watching him fly a 5m beamer a couple of times, I decided to buy my own. Ok, so which one? I was lucky enough to meet a racekites.com member the first time the Beamer was flown - Johnkiteman - who was on hand to give some very good advice, and recommended looking at the racekites website for some tips. I logged on and found that there is indeed a wealth of information available for both novices and experienced users alike, whether you search through previous topics, or post a new topic you don'y have to wait long to be greeted and provided with a lot of good advice. After reading several reviews, I decided on a 3.2m Crossfire which I found online for £170 - not too big a size to start with, and thought it would give me a little flexibility with the varying wind. I also wanted something that I wouldn't grow out of quickly. After an almost unbearable wait for the kite to arrive, I took receipt of the package and instantly became a 7yo child at Christmas again, tearing the packing off with a huge grin on my face! First Impressions The bag is a good size. If the kite is packed away tightly, there is plenty of room inside for gloves, raincoat, hat etc... The top of the bag has drawstrings so no danger of any zips snagging on lines / kite material. I can't comment further on the durability of the bag yet, as after only a few weeks everything is fine, it's just getting a little dirty! The lines come neatly packaged on a plastic winder, and a nice blunt-ended, orange tipped ground stake is also included, complete with a belt strap too. Very useful. You also get a good instruction manual, and a VCD of various size crossfires being used as buggy engines, being piloted very skillfully I might add. The handles are quite thin, but are covered in a layer of neoprene(?), and kite killers are included. Laying the kite out, I notice that all the bridles are neatley bound together, and held in place by a velcro loop in the middle of the leading edge, nice touch. Everything looks to be in order, no frays, or obvious signs of problems with stiching. The kite is a nice light blue colour, with a yellow arc on the right-hand side. The size is shown on the lower left side, with Crossfire written vertically up one of the cells. These details are all facing you, so instead of looking up at a creamy coloured kite flying across a greyish sky, you have something nice to look at! So you have everything you need to physically fly the kite, you just need to unwind and attach the lines. First Flight Ok, i'm not too big or proud to admit that I made a classic beginners mistake here. Saturday came, and the wind was up - quite high, and gusty. I was still in excited 7yo mode. Hooray, off to the park we go. Ok, lets leave the 5m Beamer in the bag and try the Crossfire. With the kite laid out, and all lines attached, I strapped the kite killers onto my wrists, picked the handles up and was ready to go. Pulled back on the handles..... WHOAH!!! Get pulled forward a good 5 metres as it flew up through the power to the zenith, wasn't ready for that. Flying the kite through the power I was well aware that I had very limited control over what the kite was doing in the gusty conditions, and was struggling to keep on my feet as it yanked me all over the place. After a few launches / crashes, and me still with a big grin on my face - 'This is amazing!!' - I flew the kite through the power to the zenith, where it got caught by a big gust, lofting me 5ft up, and dumping me 20ft away very painfully. I've still no idea how I landed, all I know is that I wasn't going forwards as I couldn't see the ground, and when I came too sitting on the ground, everything hurt, especially my head. Ok, so the kite killers did their job, allowing me to (unwittingly) let go and depower the kite without it flying off into the distance, collecting small children / dogs along the way. The smile was wiped off my face, and the excitement replaced by excrement. The smell of fear was in the air. Ok, time to act my age again and show this thing some respect. The kite was packed up, and I'd wait for more suitable conditions, before I, or someone else got really hurt. Second & third flight : Light Winds With winds of no more than 5mph, the kite was tricky to launch by myself, but was possible with plenty of running backwards. Once off the ground and partly inflated, you can turn it sideways and get it flying relatively easily. I was surpised by the amount of pull still present, I was able to lean back as it flew though the power. Turning is nice and quick when using the brakes too. This was really good practice. Fourth flight: Moderate / strong winds Having flown a few times now, and got some much needed practice in, this was so much more fun. The kite is fast, manouverable, and has enough pull to get me scudding along nicely. The big grin is back on my face! Launching is a lot easier in these winds, no running back is needed. Just pull back on the handles, the kite will rise a couple of feet, pause briefly, then once fully inflated will rise quickly and head off to the zenith. Landing in strong winds takes some getting used to, even tugging away at the brakes the kite wants to power up again, but once you've got the hang of flying it to edge of the window, and braking, it's fairly straightforward. This gives you great peace of mind knowing that if things start getting hairy, or you're just getting knackered and want a rest, that you can get thing down safely. I've only flown the 3.2 CF and a 5m Beamer, which by comparison feels completely different. It's obviously slower due to the size, less lifty, and the power delivery is a lot more progressive and predictable. You have to give the CF your complete attention in stronger winds as it always feels like it's ready to embarrass you at any time when the next gust comes along. I've found the handles to be maybe a little thin to be gripping on to so hard for so long, so I now wear my biking gloves which are padded on the palms, and that makes things a little more comfortable. Conclusion Ok, here's what i've learnt; When flying for the first time, take the kite out in light winds a few times and practice controlling / landing it, and really get a feel for how it handles BEFORE heading out in stronger winds, you'll enjoy it a lot more, and there's a greatley reduced chance of being embarrassed, or seriously injured. Wear kite killers, especially whilst learning in a public place. They tend to get in the way slightly, but the peace of mind comes from knowing that you can let go if in trouble, and your kite won't fly off and potentially damage something, or injure someone on the way. The 3.2m Crossfire is a fast, powerful, manouverable kite, with quite a bit of lift. You've got to be on your guard as the power comes on quickly, and it's quite spikey in gusty conditions. There seems to be varying opinion regarding the CF being a beginners kite, but i'd say with the right amount of common sense / patience you can learn on it successfully, with what is probably a steeper more painful curve! Insurance is a must. Other park users like to stroll under the kite as you are flying it. Cancel your gym membership and buy one of these. You get a great workout without having to wipe other peoples sweat off equipment, and you're outside in the fresh air meeting people too. Dogs and children are fascinated by power kites. It's ok to feel nervous when flying your kite in strongs winds for the first few times! I'm 29, not 7, so it hurts when I fall over now. By : Chaz
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If you can't be arsed to read this entire review, the kite can be described best in one word.. absolutelyfrickinawesome Previous Kites used: Eolo Radsail 1.8mHQ Beamer 5mHQ Beamer 7m (My review will make comparisons with these kites). Intro: I bought my kite from http://www.gizmos-uk.com/ who do a great price match to any other website, even the dodgy looking ones which are often cheaper! At the time they price matched to £197 + delivery which is pretty awesome! Was going to buy 3m, but bought 5m as the kite is 5m in area not width (and actually 4.52m wide according to another reviewer beamer3.6m ) I've introduced 2 first time flyers to kiting with this crossfire in light winds, and I think the responsiveness of the kite allows them to learn quicker. Having said that do not buy this kite if you are a beginner, you will definately need tuition so as not to kill yourself! This is an extremely powerful kite! The Kite: The first thing I noticed was how crisp and light weight the material felt in comparison to the other kites I'd used before, The handles probably weigh more than the foil. It feels alot like the material used to make a modern tent. Fantastic build quality! The stitching is immaculate and tight throughout and reinforced where the bridle lines meet the foil. Foil graphics are all stitched on, and stiched on the inner facing side of the foil so you can actually admire the beautiful graphics when its in the air! oooh! The foil has velcro 'dirt outs' on the two ends of the trailing edge, useful for removing sand and grass! Another velcro loop is located on the leading edge centre, useful for holding the lines when packing away, or staking the kite to the ground. The handles are nothing to shout about, but are of solid build quality and a nice size and diameter. There are brake loops also for staking the handles. The bull crap in reviews about uncomfortable handles is written by people who enjoy manicures. To those people I would recommend them to buy some tennis racket grip tape or gloves, etc... and to stop whineing! The lines are dyneema throughout, thicker for the main lines, thinner for the brakes. After taking the kite out in stronger winds my feeling is they are incredibly strong, maybe even stronger than the force holding my arms in my shoulders (which arguably, could be a bad thing..). The Bag: Alot of people complain about this for some bizarre reason and I honestly can't see what they're on about! Put simply the bag works. Its waterproof, big enough to hold the kite (or even 2 kites if you can fold properly!) and most importantly has the big zipper. There is another zipped compartment for your kite killers, etc. There is an extra front face to the bag which may be useful for carrying a kite board, though I haven't tested this out yet! Two elastic side pouches are useful for bottles of water. The bag is great. Free stuff! HQ have been pretty generous on this kite and the bundled accesories. You get a lot for your cash and it feels like money well spent. If you are considering if the extra 70 quid over the beamer II is actually worth it? it probably is. Bundled stuff includes: Kite killers, which are good quality, stitched with velcro and snugly padded. Usually these cost another 15 quid. Funky luminous orange ground stake (made from stainless steel and not plastic crap), with its very own stitched, black ninja belt clip. yay! Video CD with awesome kite flying footage.. if I remember right its about 10 minutes of video with a very german, heavy rocker backing track... nice. Owners Manual. Great graphics, very clear and descriptive with a brief flying tutorial. Useful to throw at your newbie mate who really really wants to have a go.. (and delay them for 5 mins). Flying: Overall I'm impressed with the controll and responsiveness of the kite. I don't have a wind meter so cannot say the exact speeds, but will describe flying in 3 wind categories: No wind - Light Winds: If you can tell the wind direction from dropping grass, you can pretty much fly this kite. In comparison to the other 5 and 7m beamers I've used this kite has a better lift to weight ratio, so you can fly in extremely low winds. You might, occasionally, have to do some backwards running to get the kite in the air, but once you have it up there you'll have a very relaxed and calming flying experience! Moderate Winds - Winds with occasional gusts (tree tops moving occasionally): Brilliant fun! You all the pull you would expect and the skids along the ground. Pulling the kite through the power zone will give you your jumps! The power you can get is immense and the jumps are alot smoother than the previous kites I've used. You can get jumps in much lighter winds. Higher winds - High winds with gusts (constantly swaying trees, you can hear the wind gusts): Either fly a smaller kite or stay at home and write a kiting review! I just flew today in these winds and nearly broke my face. Worse than that there were people watching and I felt pretty dumb after unpacking, crashing in the mud puddle and packing away in the space of about 5 minutes. I would say I'm an intermediate flyer and would not reccomend you use this kite in this weather unless you have an enormous field without any trees and a decent kite board. I would probably have been ok with a 2-3m beamer. Summary: Pros: Build Quality is fault less.Value for Money.It's ability to fly in very low winds.Power with responsiveness. Cons: erm.. thumb twiddle... none really! yea, i'll be a sheep and say the bag like everyone else... durrrr.. If you want value for money, solid build quality and power buy this kite now! By : Arooga
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Now that I have had these kites for some time, I would like to offer a few more thoughts. After a small problem with one of the bags that was fixed immediately, (great customer service) these kites have held up very well. My whole family has been flying these kites (2 adults, 3 kids) as well as our cousins and the kid's friends. They have been crashed to the ground, twisted around fence posts, dragged across the ground, stepped on, tripped over, and flown in many different conditions. I have not had even one broken string. I think that says a lot for the quality of construction and durability. I am looking forward to expanding my quiver of HQ Kites. Having only flown 2 string kites before these, I was a little put off by all the lines on these kites. After quickly learning how to properly put away the handles and strings, they have been a joy to use. My kids have also learned how and don't mind helping at all. As far as flying characteristcs, these kites have been amazing. I have easily taught kids and adults to fly these who had never flown any multiline kite before. The Beamer is fast in the higher winds with a more steady pull but easily manageable by beginners. The Crossfire is a bit slower with big bursts of power, but once someone gets the feel for the Beamer, switching over to the Crossfire has been easy. Everyone wants to try the bigger kite, but I try to limit it to people who are a little heavier or a little more experienced. Our cousins enjoyed flying them so much that they are going to be buying these same 2 kites later this year. Last week my 7 year old daughter (Danielle) was finally managing the Beamer on her own. Her older sister (Nicole) had to hold her down by the waist, but she did very well. Danielle started dragging Nicole around so one of Nicole's friends held on to Nicole and then together it was enough weight to keep Danielle in one place. It was the funniest thing you've ever seen. I had to tell Danielle to stop getting air and learn how to fly the kite! We have been using them for recreation and scudding, with a little jumping as well. We plan on getting a buggy later this year. Since my last reviews I have also flown the Crossfire 7.7m kite. WOW! It was powerful. On a light wind day I was easily scudding and jumping. When it luffed, I was able to recover it very easily. On the high wind day I was struggling to control it. I now understand better than ever why it is important to have a couple of kite choices depending on the conditions. Having said that, we have been able to enjoy one kite or the other on any given day, but I can see that the 7.7m kite would make the lighter wind days much more fun for my big frame. The family time and enjoyment we have gotten from these kites far out weigh any monetary considerations. My daughter's friends are now calling us to see when we are going flying. I know this review is more about our enjoyment of the kites than the kites themselves, but I wanted to post it any way. Thanks!! Randy S. By : rsherwood
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The initial purchase I ordered this kite along with my BladeIII 4.9 so that I would have a kite for every wind and my days of spending would be over in one fell swoop(HA!!!). After shopping around on the internet, I managed to pick this kite up for £129.95 from Kiteworld with the usual HQ package......kite,handles,lines,kitekillers,stake and backpack. Basically your "ready to fly" package. First impressions On opening the package you are greeted with the Crossfire backpack,this seems to be standard throughout the range with only the area of the kite stamped onto the front of the pack being the only difference. The pack is of sufficient quality but has been known to fall apart after a few months use, so it may be wise to invest in a new pack. The lines I received with this kite are a tad on the thick side if I'm being honest. This doesn't bother me too much personally but I've had a couple of beginners fly this kite and when the kite is spun too many times steering proves nigh on impossible,but if you are an experienced flyer who is in control of his kite at all times then it really shouldn't make a difference. The handles,once again, fit into that "sufficient" category. They are OK and they do the job they are designed to do but once you've tried Flexifoil handles nothing else will do. They are far more comfortable and do not hurt your hands as much in the long run. Finally to the kite itself,Your immediate reactions are going to range from anywhere between "ooooohhh!! It's sooooo cute!!!!" to "This is going to be a lovely little kite to fly" ..........it's just so small!! It's tiny!!!! It comes in one colour,yellow, and it truly is a very striking kite. It has Velcro tabs for attaching your bridles when storing away and Velcro dirt-outs for getting rid of any sand/dirt/grass which may find its way into the kite(not that you're going to be ditching this little lamb)Build quality is of the usual high standard you expect from HQ kites and it's clear to see where most of your money has gone. Setting up As with every HQ kite, you get an in-depth insruction manual which,as a beginner, is invaluable. It gives tips on wind range,connecting the kite to the lines and handles/control bar, how to steer,launching/reverse launching and most of the basics. However, as much information as you get from the booklet, there's nothing like actually flying the kite to learn all you can from it and it is imperative that you use these early flights to make your adjustments to the brake/power lines so as tog et the best out of your kite. Performance So, you've unpacked the kite,read the instructions,attached the kite to the lines and handles and it's sitting there, waiting for you to play with it. So, you pick up the handles,let out a bored sigh and............BANG!!!!!!!!! This is where you forget all the cutesie little adjectives you've been using. THIS KITE IS EVIL!!!!!!! END OF!!!!!!!! It's the Bart Simpson of the kiting world,a cute little yellow being on the outside with a mischievious/malicious soul on the inside! That red line you see that you thought was the HQ swoop?? fly the kite upside down(if you can), look again, It's a big red smile, It's laughing at you and it wants to keep laughing for as long as it can!!! Imagine this, It's just dragged you the length of two football pitches......easily!!,you need a rest,what do you do? that's right, put it at the Zenith......HA!!!! this kite has the power to lift you. I weigh 13 stone and it has managed to lift me with no input whatsoever. I bought this kite as my high wind kite, and as such, I've flown it in winds of 6 Bft. It made a fool of me, no questions.......and the best bit is, as you look to the end of your lines expecting to see your Blade and all you see is this little yellow imp( which does look ridiculously small after flying bigger kites), your ego takes an absolute hammering!!!! I gave a female friend of mine a shot of this kite( I know, this makes me just as evil as the kite!!!).She managed to launch it easily and took it to the Zenith as I instructed, it is here that little Bart decided it didn't like being flown by this 8 1/2 stone blonde and started to make life very diffic.......ok, it dragged her onto her front with no warning and dragged her a full 30 yards,face first and screaming(fair play to her though, she kept the kite in the air) leaving my friend battered and bruised for her troubles!! It seems the Sprinfield yellow one has a twisted sense of humour. A slight quality issue arose during one of these early flights in that one of the bridles snapped rendering the kite useless, but after contact with Racekites.coms very own Jerry, it was explained that this was a problem with some of the early editions of the kite and that HQ have identified and fixed the problem throughout the whole range, so you can definitely buy a Crossfire with confidence. He then sorted me out with a new bridle part and the kite is now back to making a mockery of all who fly him/it Conclusion I'll start with the bad points first...... The Bridle problem-Easily fixed! HQ(and oor Jerry!) are making sure that if you do encounter this problem,a more than satisfactory conclusion will be reached. This is not a beginners kite- If there was ever proof needed that you couldn't rely on first impressions then this kite is it!!! and that is it for the bad points so onto the good points........... This is not a beginners kite- this kite is F.....U....N!!!!!!!(with a very evil accent!!!!!) you will "eat it's shorts" time and time again It's quick- cat-like reflexes are required to keep this in the air and a whole lot of pro-active flying The power- The power generated by this...................thing.........this little yellow speck in the sky, is bewildering do not underestimate it!!! you're gonna want to grow arms 30m long so you can wring its neck and scream WHY YOU LITTLE............. By : DawsonCreaks
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I had a play on one of the smaller sizes of these kites at the Weymouth kite festival in May and even though the wind was much to low for the kite I came away with a sense that if I could get my hands on one of the bigger sizes that it maybe interesting as a low wind kite for the summer. My last HQ kite was a Symphony 3.3 which I owned a number of years ago but I remember that it was a bullet proof kite being flown all year round and hardly ever getting washed or really looked after. Even after all those years it survived well and provided many hours of great fun. When the Crossfire arrived and was unpacked the first thing that struct me was the bag, excellent high quality but what is that zip all about. I am not sure if it adds class to the kite or a comic, toy kite value, I really hope the kite was more upmarket. I did not really need to worry as both the kite lines and handles all looked very good. Onced layed out on the ground the kite does not look very large and even though I had gone for the 7.7m because I wanted a low wind kite I was not to sure the kite was really going to deliver compared to the likes of the Mac Bego 600 or Blade3 6.6 or 8.5m. One thing that I did notice and remember reading about on the crossfire was the bridle attachment points for the main brilde. They come together and are held by a fairly light piece of grey line, which really does look very flimsy. Some people had reported this line braking so it was removed straight away and replaced with a heavier line. The brake was left as it was. The handles are the extra large ones and even though I am mainly a bar flyer they did feel very comfortable and easy to use. The kite itself looks to be very well made, but I supose you should really expect this from a company such as HQ, lets face it they produce some impressive budget kites and by their very nature these kites will be purchased by beginners who will punish these kites so they will have to be slightly over engineered to compensate. I decided to test the low wind potential of the Crossfire straight away by taking the kite out in about 2-3mph on a local hill side. I had been told that I should not expect to much from the 7.7 as a real low wind kite due to the kite being to heavy. It should really be classed as a supper size kite, whatever that is ment to mean, it would either work in low wind or it wouldn't. Once the kite was layed out one pull on the front lines and the kite moved slowly up to the zenith, then straight over the top, at least it collapsed with grace. Once I had adjusted the brake and put more tension on them I tried again and this time the kite was great. This kites was flying on a summers evening, on a hill side in wind that was barely noticeable, 2-3mph if that. At 3mph I was even getting lift and certainly there was enough power to scudd, it was simply amazing. In terms of power it certainly provide more than the Mac Bego 600, and in Blade3 terms somewhere inbetween the 6.6 and 8.5m. It was faster and more manoverable than the bigger Blade and way more solid and stable than the Mac. The one thing that struck me straight away was the lift this kite produces even at these silly low winds. When there was a gust, yes gust and the wind increase to about 4-5mph I was getting lifted onto my toes when the kite was flown up to the zenith. I know I only weigh 60kgs but this was very impressive for a kite that has not had much press about its low wind potential. The next flight was in wind of about 6-7mph and at this wind speed it was very easy to board and jump. The lift is very easy to dial in on this kite and all it needs is a small amount of brake and the kite seems to get a boost. This kite certainly flys well using handles and is very nimble. I tried a C-Quad bar and it does work very well but you lose something from the kite in real low wind terms, very difficult to define. Lifty kites have not always been my thing and I find that flying Viokites which are all depowerable the lift is very controlable and certainly not aggressive. The Crossfire has as much lift as a Blade, so why not get a Blade. The lift is much more progressive and not as punchy although flown in an aggressive way the 'pop' you can get from this kite is just as adictive. I was also looking for a kite that would be good flying statically. Many kites are designed to be super stable when moving and generate most of their power when moving but flown staically are underpowered and very poor in turbuelent wind. Flying this kite on a hill side and just playing with jumps and scudding was just so much fun and the kite just worked providing power and lift when needed, but also worked well with the board. I was not as comfortable in the buggy with the Crossfire and was very aware of the lift when the kite was put anywhere near the zenith. This may not be the case with the smaller sizes but with the 7.7m, well, if buggy jumping is your thing look no further. It is funny how you can spend ages trying to find a low wind kite and never really find the kite that is correct for you and yet when you are not really looking, having decided that low wind flying is best kept for hot air ballons, a kite like this is presented to you. I will publish a full review of the 7.7m Crossfire on my web site at the end of the summer once I have had more flying time on it but if the wind stays light or on those 2mph summer evenings I know which kite I will be flying. By : mee
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Well here is another review of the Crossfire. This one is on the 2.4M which has been loaned to me to try out in some of the stronger winds that we have through the winter. I won't bore you with the Big Zip Rucksack, build quality, instructions or initial set up as we have all read about most of this already. I bought a CF 4M during the summer and found this kite to be demanding, relentless at times and most of all thoroughly enjoyable. However the power produced by this kite in any wind condition can be enough to scare you initially until you have mastered the CF. To successfully fly the CF you need alot of brake control through the brake lines. Apart from this preventing the kite from luffing at the edge of the window and at the Zenith (Crossfire is a High Aspect Ratio Kite) it also makes it alot easier to control, steer and power through the wind zone. With the stronger winds which are inevitable during the winter (however as I write it is blue skies, sun shining and MPH of wind) I decided that I needed a smaller kite for buggying and boarding during the coming months. I was fortunate enough to be loaned a CF2.4M, can't turn down the offer to evaluate a kite before buying. My first outing with the CF2.4M was a rather pleasant Friday afternoon. The winds were a mild 10 -MPH, I would normally be flying the CF 4M in these conditions. Needing to try out the smaller version I set up as usual. The kite launched easily and sored to the Zenith with ease. One thing I did notice was this kite it has same strong pull as the the larger CF 4M. Compared to the Beamer II 2.5M, this kite has extraordinary power for something smaller. This is another characteristic of the CF, having flown the CF 4M. I spent an enjoyable hour flying the kite up and down and around through the power zone. I had some enjoyable, albeit short Scud's and some lifting moments through the arms at least (not enough wind for full jumps although I am sure it would lift my 15st with ease). Roll on a strong windy day. My second outing was on a similar day but this time I had rigged the CF2.4M onto a Ozone Cm Bar and released the brake lines (this means attaching the brake lines to the last not on the Bridal). Without having the braking lines to control the kite and assist with the control. The characteristics change slightly. The CF2.4M still has the power, pull and lift but the control differs. To steer the CF it requires a hard pull on the power lines to change its direction and adjust quickly back to control the kite. The wind window changes slightly also when flying on the bar as this becomes slightly smaller. One thing I did find and appreciate was that the kite hardly luffed and collapsed on the Bar, which makes it alot easier to fly rather than to control. This particular afternoon I had my son aged 10 with me who is learning to Land board and is progressing better than me. He flew the CF on the bar (he finds the bar easier on any kite). He soon had the kite in the power zone was moving forward on the board. The pull and lift he was able to control with ease and enjoyed he first experience with a smaller CF. You'll never guess what he said aftewards ????? I have had the CF2.4M out on a few other occasions but sadly the strong winds just haven't been about lately, instead we have had the Indian Summer in November and also Snow. I just hope I can get out in higher winds before I have to return the kite to its generous owner. I will try and update this review in due course. My conclusion of the CF2.4M is that it is a great affordable intermediate kite and not a beginners kite, with more pull, power and lift to a kite of similar size. (for those that say there is never a negative review) There is one fault that I have come across with HQ kites as I have several HQ kites. After a few hours out I have incurred problems with the handles. The rubber gripping is loosely fitted and therefore becomes mishapped and tears around the holes made for the pigtails (roll on Jerry's new design handles). Easily fixed with some industrial tape but this makes the handles look untidy. I can see this kite being hair raising and exhilarating in high end winds. This is probably why HQ have recently launched the CF 1.7M, see Forum for Info. By : Nige
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I have recently recieved my long awaited Crossfire 6.3 after listening to the people with connections review them. My background is a that of moderate amount of flying traction kites in the 3-4m size for the past 4 years. I was immediately impressed with the backpack that the kite comes with, it has plenty of room and then some. in fact I am able to store a 1.2m, 3m, and 4m of other kites in the backpack with my crossfire, so it is an awesome setup and the material in the pack is of a heavier grade than just a basic rip stop nylon bag. I like the looks of the huge zipper, however I am somewhat lukewarm on the idea of what I am going to do if that thing ever goes bad, the local seamstress will not have on of those on hand to fix it. The kitestake is nice to have, it is rounded off on top so in case you trip over it you won't scrape yourself up and it is a nice orange color making it easy to find in a field if you get dragged away from it. The handles are really nice, they are wrapped in a really dense foam that is soft enough to provide grip and cushion to the hands but hard enough that wrapping lines around it won't leave permanent wrap marks. Also the handles have addition of kite killers (a velcro wristband that is connected to the brakelines to drop the kite from the sky if it should get too much to handle you simply let go and it falls without blowing away.) * A note on these, as a beginner with this kite and having these kite killers, I will say they are a bit of a nuisance at first because you are strapped to your handles so you can't just set them down and walk away from them to go tinker with the kite. I would not reccomend cutting them though, I know one fellow who did just that and then regretted it later when he realized he would need them, Mine have already paid off, I had to let go of my kite once already due to wet grass and poor traction. So hang in there with those. I actually like the lines that it came with, I believe they are Dyneema/spectra, they are braided and look like little ropes, the feature I like about them is that they don't seem to kink up as easily as my spectra gold linesets do, when rolling and unrolling them, this is not to say they are kink-proof, but they are decent lines and they have it where it counts. The leading edge lines are really heavy duty at (660lb) and the brake lines are (220lb). The kite itself seems to be well put together, I could find no threads hanging out of the stitching, and I compared it to some of my cheaper kites that use a straight stitch on them, HQ chose to use a zig zag stitch similiar to that on sailcloth, this a good detail because that stitch is able to stretch and give better without breaking. The material is coated with silicon, this seems to be helpful as the kite is fairly respondant to lighter wind I am guessing in part due to the windproofing the silicon offers. I also like the addition of the the Mylar crosspieces in the ram chanbers to hold the kite open on the ground so it picks up air easier to take off. The bridle is actually attached to sewn loops rather and a string or the kitefabric itself, this looks to take some of the stress off of the kite when flying or in a crash. Aslo the bridal lines have been sewn together rather than knotted together. This is also nice for strength as just behind a knot is a weakpoint in a line, plus this also makes my bridles easier to deal with since they don't get tangled on knots. The brakelines come with pre-knotted black chord on them, they seem to actually work for adjusting how tight the brakes are, the first time I flew it I had it on the knots closest to the bridles to minimze power, I was in a limited amount of wind so the kite would barely fly, it was at that time I decided it was safe to let the brakes out on it so I looped the lines on the last knots and let the brakes out and it flew much better so the knot system makes the power of the kite and the sensitivty of the brakes adjustable. also a nice feature. I have only had the pleasure of flying it three times so far, but I am really impressed since I was flying it in gusty wind and broke new ground as a flyer on this kite. I have found that this kite generates both huge pull and lift, I was barely lifted up when the kite was at it's zenith and I am not a light guy, (215lbs, or 15+ stone). I also took off once in a gust of maybe 10-15mph wind and flew staight up through the window and the kite quickloy lifted me from a sitting postion to dangle my feel about (6 feet, 2 meters) above the ground and then set me gently down. It was a much smoother jump than either my firebee or Cquads are capable of. It was also completely effortless, I feel that with this kite I can do some great jumping. I was also able to get propulsion on my landboard for the first time. I was in fairly light l wind and was able to get moving though some thick grass in a field, the only problem i had was I kept out running the kite making it fall to the ground, (I chalk that up to user error, since I am new to landboarding). This kite seems to be fairly fast, it is hard to talk about speed since this is a 6.3 m kite and I have not flown enough in it's size range to compare it to others, I will say though that it is as fast as my 3.0 meter Firebee which is half the sail area, so that tells me it is pretty fast and it seems pretty maneuverable, In fact it makes me itch to try a smaller size in this just for the fun of the speed and maneverability. Also the power on this kite feels much more predictable than others that I have flown including the flexi blade. As far as applications go for this kite, I would say it is a good jumping/ scudding kite as well as probably a good preformer for landboarding (especially if you want to get lift for some jumps). Although I am sure it would work for buggies, I am suspect that the lift it generates may cause some problems (unless you are looking for that sort of thing). I would say that this is an incredible kite for the money, they have paid attention to detail on this one, they also supply the customer with good components instead of sacrificing quality on them to save a buck. Kite seems sturdy yet agile and predictably powerful with good speed. Kite backpack will carry all your stuff (except maybe the kitchen sink)' The only things I can say that might at all be negative are that maybe the design (although pleasing to me) looks wise might be considered boring by some. And if the backpack only comes in the big size that my pack came in, it might be too big for someone with a smaller crossfire (this is just a speculation since I am not sure if the backpacks are sized to the kite or not) Byond that I have no complaints about this kite and plan on adding atleast one more to my bag eventually. By : Skizzo
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Crossfire "Depower" Review Kites Tested – HQ Crossfire 2.4m, 3.2m, 5m, and 7.7m This is not a review of the standard Crossfire, but an account of my findings after retro fitting a depower bar system to the kite. In the beginning For the last 10 months or so, I had been using ARC style kites for my buggying and boarding exploits. While the stability and performance of these kites cannot be denied, sometimes you can be left with a slightly muted, detached feel. So, last month, when I received my first HQ Crossfire kite – to be flown on handles no less – it was something of a wake up call... Crossfire owners will know exactly what I mean when I say this kite has character – very fast across the sky, great upwind, surprising lift and float even in the smaller sizes, and more power per square inch than most kites I have flown. The Crossfire ride is raw and direct, the anti-thesis of the sometimes remote characteristics of my staple kites. The Crossfire is mostly flown on handles, and really responds to active brake input from the pilot to get the full potential of the kites stability and performance. For this reason, flying on a bar with the Flexi style free brakes system is not really an option. There was speculation of a depower option being available for the kite before its release, but it never materialised. There are some great boarders using handles these days, but I am not one of them (!) so, being keen to use the Crossfire for my boarding sessions, I decided to retro fit a depower system to my quiver of Crossfires... Retro Fit My retro depower system comprises – one depower bar complete with trim strap, two small pulleys on to which is ‘larks headed’ an 18cm loop of nylon (available from any chandlers), two 116cm lengths of strong nylon chord. In the nylon chord, I tied a knot at each end, and one more 23cm in from one end. To fit the system is quite straightforward. With the kite secured on the ground, remove the brake and power lines from the kite’s bridles. Take the pulley with its attached nylon loop, and larks head it onto the power bridle, as you would normally do with the lines. Run one of the 116cm lengths of nylon though the pulley, and attach the power line to the end furthest away from the knot you have tied in the nylon. Next, tie a loop into the end of the brake bridle leader, and 'larks head' that around the knot you tied 23cm in from the other end. Now to finish off, attach your brake line to the remaining end of the long nylon chord. Do the same to both sides of the bridle. The bar set up is the same as with any depower style kite – brake lines to the ends of the bar, and the power lines to the trim strap. The bar that I used was the one from the Advance Offroad kites, with the safety leash attaching to the brake leaders, so when the safety is pulled, the kites flutter to the ground on its brake lines. This system worked well for me; I have not experimented with ‘re-ride’ safety systems. Test Conditions My location for testing the kites was at the Skypark, an inland flying site. The winds, while constant, were sometimes lumpy due to the presence of rain and heavy cloud cover. I have not tested the kites in very gusty conditions. Launching and Edge of Window Control The Crossfire launches much the same as other depower kites – sheet in the trim strap and push the bar forward to create slack in the brake lines. Pulling on the centre lines, just in front of the trim strap, helps the kite up to the zenith in lighter winds. With the kite at the zenith, a little input from the bar is needed to prevent over flying. Guiding the kite round to the edges of the window, tension is needed in the brake lines to ensure stability, much the same as when flying with handles. Kite Feedback All the Crossfires I tested felt surprisingly natural and comfortable on the depower bar when static flying. Turning is crisp and predictable, the kite even responds like a proper depower kite – pulling the bar in gives you a faster turn rate, while letting the bar out slackens the brake lines giving you a larger turning radius – some older, big name depower foils didn’t manage to get that bit right! Bar pressure is solid, with the bar feeling nice and ‘springy’ in the middle third of its travel – a good sign. Four Kites, One Bar. My retro depower system worked the same for all the kites, no extra modifications were necessary. Starting with the smallest kite, the 2.4m in 10knots wind, the kite zipped around the sky, retaining its feisty characteristics. The 3.2m was a real peach, fast and precise, nice and stable, and great fun in the buggy. In stronger winds, the 3.2m proved to be a great boarding kite, retaining its shape very well, and even generating a nice bit of float and lift, allowing some nice jumps and grabs with the board. The 5m, in 15knots of wind, required a lot of active brake input to keep its shape in the sky, and it took me a while to get tuned in to the kite. With practice though, the kite began to reveal its potential. On the day of testing the 5m, the wind increased some more, and this made the kite easier to fly. Being hooked in to the kite with the depower system made holding the power in the stronger winds easier than with handles and a strop (for me personally). Possibly my favourite of the whole quiver was the 7.7m. I had really enjoyed this kite on handles, and with the depower set up I was able to hold the huge power generated by this kite. Smooth, big floaty jumps were no problem, with enough hang time to land foot outs, rotations and other freestyle tricks. Turning speed was still rapid with this kite – even using the same bar length as the tiny 2.4m – that’s the beauty of brake line turns! Redirecting the kite in the air was easy, and by sheeting the bar right in, I could extend the length of my jumps and prevent the kite from collapsing due to slack lines. From the 3.2m Crossfire upwards, all kites produced great lift for board jumping. The technique I used was the same as for most depower kites – bar sheeted out, holding an edge cruising upwind, quickly send the kite to the zenith, and pull the bar in. It is vital to pull the bar fully in on landing to prevent the kite from collapsing. Repower more than Depower The Crossfire is a lot of fun on a depower bar set up, I was impressed enough after my initial experiments to want to use the system again. The Crossfire is not a beginners kite, and it would be wrong to tout it as a ‘my first depower’ option. The kite requires good flying skills and understanding of performance kites to avoid frustration. The rewards are certainly waiting for those willing to try, and the depower option further adds to the versatility of the kite – the market is far from crowded with kites that can be flown on handles or a depower bar. The wind range of the kite isn’t really increased, the Crossfire still generates a lot of power even with the bar sheeted out and the brake lines slack, so don’t expect to be able to take your 5m out in 30knots! Using my set up, I found that the kite wasn’t usable on all settings of the trim strap – with the strap let right out, the kite would back stall. But for me the advantage of putting my Crossfires on a depower set up was not to increase the wind range and give me an alternative to the state of the art depower kites on the market, but to add a new dimension to my session with these kites. Since acquiring my Crossfires, they have quickly ascended in my estimation and I now use them as my first choice for recreational and buggy riding. For boarding, I can get higher with my ARC kites – but the Crossfire makes for a more full throttle session, still allowing me to practice my freestyle tricks. I feel the Crossfire on depower bar is a proper option – it take minutes to set up, and give the less dextrous fliers like myself chance to get some serious freestyle action with the kite, but still retaining that raw power edge that defines the Crossfire experience. If you are enjoying some great sessions with your Crossfire, check this system out – you’ll be surprised at what these kites can do…
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After being helped so much by this site I thought I would write a quick review of my new baby, the HQ Crossfire 4.0. First off, let me say that I have never flown a power kite before, only deltas, so I didn't know what I was letting myself in for really. Couldn't wait to get it and bugged the company who supplied it for days before it arrived. Finally the day came, and I removed the packaging. Despite reading all the reviews of the rather odd zipper, nothing quite prepares you for its ridiculous size! Still not sure if it is a good thing or a bit daft. Anyway, on to more important matters... I unpacked everything in my living room to see what I had got. It included the kite (obviously!), bars, lines and killers. Everything seemed to be of a good quality and there were no frays or odd bits of thread anywhere so all's good so far. Off we went to the Downs for the maiden voyage. On the climb up from the port road I could feel the nervous anticipation growing... Finally got there and found a vacant spot. Just enough wind to get the tree tops waving a bit. The instructions were excellent and we managed to get everything set up without a hitch (surprise!). After getting a little confused with which way to pull, we were off. Up it went to the zenith, after a little wobble on the way. I wasn't sure what to expect, and after I didn't end up in Wales, my confidence grew. Been back at every opportunity in various winds. I cant compare this to other kites as I haven't flown any (...yet..) but it feels like a bit of a beast to me. In light winds I have been dragged along the ground, it's yanked me up from sitting down and my arms and backache most days(and I'm a 15st whopper!). In moderate winds I am expecting some real frightening fun to come my way. It turns like a dream and is really responsive, even with my inexperience. Towards the edge of the window it seems to luff slightly but with a bit of a tug it's off again like a steam train. Its a real fighter this one and even at the zenith there is no rest for the arms but its all good. All in all, I would have to say that this has been my best buy in a very long time. It has the power to pull and lift a big lad like me and there is definitely more than enough power for doing some boarding and buggying in the future. Take it easy folks and I will see you out and about on a windy day in Bristol. By : Hazmo
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After reading many reviews here, I decided on the Crossfire 4.0. I have flown delta wing and parafoil stunt kites for many years and my wife and daughters fly as well. This is my first experience with any type of 4 line kite. The "Big Zipper" on my bag was defective, but HQ sent a new bag immediately. GREAT customer service. Orlando isn't the best place for wind, but we have our days. Finally after about a month of nothing, we had a good weekend with 10-25 mph winds. I was pretty intimidated after watching "The Art of Airtime with Erik Eck" (a must see) but decided it was time to give it a try. There were 3 or 4 guys from Hawaiin Kiteworks out there flying and Roger let me try his very small traction kite with 4 lines. I got very comfortable with that in about 15 minutes and was ready for the Crossfire. The kite looked good coming out of the bag for the first time. The 4 lines were a pain to get off the figure 8 winder. It has 2 bungee cords on one side that hold the string on and they kept getting caught in the string. Other than that, everything else seemed great. It was pretty gusty so when I first launched the kite, even at the side of the wind, it pulled me forward about 10 steps. (I weigh about 200 lbs.) Because I am new, I kept trying to use the brakes to control the kite and it was not flying very well. I was quickly frustrated. Randall came over and moved the knots on the brake lines all the way out so I basically had no brakes unless I let go of the kite. It sounds like a radical thing to do, but it made me fly the kite and get used to it before I started depending on the brakes. I don't know if I would recommend this for everyone, but it worked really wel for me. Because the wind was so strong, I could only fly at the sides and the top of the wind but I got the kite moving. After a few minutes I landed the kite and gave Robert a turn. He was jumping in no time and telling me he was going to immediatley save money for a crossfire. When he was tired and it was my turn again, I was able to start getting some air and having a lot of fun. We moved the brakes up one knot so I could at least land the kite when I wanted to. I was very happy with my progress for the first day out. Overall, the Crossfire seemed like an awsome kite. Robert (who has more experience with traction kites than myself) was very impressed as well. He offered to trade his Beamer for my Crossfire, but I wasn't having any of that. We were both suprised at how the kite luffed rather easily at the sides of the wind, but if you kept the kite moving, it never happened. It seemed to tolerate being at the top of the wind better. Robert commented that his 4.0 beamer was much easier to control on the sides of the wind, but didn't have near the pull of the crossfire. I can't wait to get out again. When I get a little more comfortable with the kite, I am going to try some buggying! By : rsherwood
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Just received my Crossfire kite 4.0m in the mail. Got it out the box and decided to immediately take it out to the beach for a fly. i have been waiting for this kite for at least a week now. Been hearing alot off good reviews so far and decided to get a new kite to get some serious jumps on those insanely windy days when a 6m kite is to big and a 3.0m just to fast for safe landings. ---Sooo i decided on getting the 4.om crossfire. Kite comes in a nice red backpack very good quality. Comes with handels ,lines, kite killers and a couple of instruction manuls. Packed every thing back into bag and drove down to the beach with my brother and we set the kite up,, took like 5 mins since i am an experienced kiter...lol. Well the wind was just perfect about 9 to 10 mph. ok launched kite, WOW i am Impressed this kite has ALOT of power. i mean alot, Fast but controllable. Power is transferred straight to the pilot. not a twitchy kite,, but not soft and mushy either, you get the Right feel -----just pure Power. Kite definately has lift, exept the winds were not good enought for me to jump ,kite is also stable at the edge of the window no luffing, , i Loved flying every second of this kite. got in some seriously long scuds --i was impressed and i own flexifoil blades also-- this kite gives them some serious competition. close to sunset the kite fell into the water and i had to call it a day. took the kite home washed it up...aha tomorrow i will be out again i have to get another fly. i LIKE this kite. it might become my other main kite. next to my 3.0m blade GUYS you can confidently buy this kite its worth every dollar. By : gemini6kl